Duration: 9’58”Quite far from Beethoven’s tempo, even though not as slow as some of the old recordings. Notes #46254: Low Resolution Color Scans. The tempo marking is Allegro ma non troppo; this, like that of the scherzo, is an afterthought on Beethoven's part: the original tempo indication in the autograph score is an unqualified "allegro". 67 4 But apart from that, it’s not a bad interpretation. I bought the Missa and the triple concerto mainly (purely) because Karajan had enough fame to collect the best & most prominent soloists with just about any performance he did. Duration: 5’36”I prefer this over Bernstein’s more recent interpretation with the Vienna Philharmonics: it’s closer to Beethoven’s tempo annotations, more moderate in the ff parts, more balanced overall. It feels rather flat and lacks tension, and with 3’30” it also fills a substantial portion of the movement. Duration: 11’20”Furtwängler takes this extremely slow; this may have worked for the concert audience. I enjoyed it. Duration: 6’35” — both Menuetto parts repeated also in the second passCompared to many traditional recordings that were popular (if not “the standard”) at the time of this recording: finally a performance that is joyful and not as martial (“military”) or overblown as many others! Zesde symfonie van Beethoven door de Radio Kamer Filharmonie o.l.v. [11], The symphony is scored for flute, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets in B♭, 2 bassoons, 2 horns in B♭ and E♭, 2 trumpets in B♭ and E♭, timpani and strings. Rather boring. Beethoven's Symphony No. As expected, this is played without vibrato — but at 1/8 = 66, the melody lacks the cantabile character, is flat not only in tone, but also in emotion: it seems that playing without vibrato really asks for a tempo close to Beethoven’s specification of 1/8 = 84! Tempo di Menuetto • 4. ), but maybe less in the ultimate detail in articulation. One of Beethoven's few works containing explicitly programmatic content, the symphony was first performed in the Theater an der Wien on 22 December 1808 in a four-hour concert. The tempo in the Allegro vivace (1/1 = 72) is also somewhat slower than given by the score; yet, occasionally it feels slightly pushed in the violins. Duration: 12’11”The sound of a big orchestra, and definitely a good orchestra, of course; everything is played as given in the score — but just that: to me, the introduction lacks tension. 00:00 - Allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestoso14:21 - Scherzo: Molto vivace -- Presto29:03 - Adagio molto e cantabile42:42 - Recitative The Symphony No.4 was recorded live and broadcast on 1951-02-03. Duration: 5’20”Near-perfect playing, joyful, sometimes even elegant, certainly never forceful or exaggerated. The Symphony No. 9 in D minor, Op. To me, the interpretation is rather uninspired, lacking dynamic and agogic elasticity. 4 & No. About the sound of the oboes see the first movement above; occasionally, there is a tendency towards belly notes in the cello / double bass sections; a good, conventional interpretation. Baan en Caroline, Dear Baan, dear Caroline — thanks for your comments! Editing: re-sampled to 600dpi, converted to black and white tif files, de-skewed, and set uniform margins. Also, the abundant “taa — tataaa — tataa” rhythm (semiquaver — demisemiquaver rest, demisemiquaver), e.g., in the first bars, isn’t always very accurate, tends to be “washed out” into triplets. Symphony No.4 was recorded in 1962. In the Fourth Symphony (and later, in the Seventh) Beethoven further departed from the traditional minuet-trio-minuet form by repeating the trio after the second rendition of the scherzo section, and then bringing the scherzo back for a third hearing. (see the score sample above). 60, is the fourth-published symphony by Ludwig van Beethoven. There are also rushed transitions, an excess of rubato. But altogether too well-behaved (the slowest performance in this comparison), very little, if any, agogics — still the best of Böhm’s movements in this symphony. [13] In a commentary on the symphony Grove comments that Haydn – who was still alive when the new symphony was first performed – might have found the work too strong for his taste. [21] Haydn had earlier wished that "someone would show us how to make a new minuet", and in this symphony, as in the First, Beethoven "forsook the spirit of the minuet of his predecessors, increased its speed, broke through its formal and antiquated mould, and out of a mere dance-tune produced a Scherzo". What bothers me more here is the fairly awful sound of the woodwinds, especially the oboes, and clarinets: the oboes sound like plastic instruments. 7 – Boston Symphony Orchestra/ Serge Koussevitzky – Pristine Audio", International Music Score Library Project, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Symphony_No._4_(Beethoven)&oldid=994237510, Pages containing links to subscription-only content, Articles with International Music Score Library Project links, Wikipedia articles with MusicBrainz work identifiers, Wikipedia articles with WorldCat-VIAF identifiers, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 14 December 2020, at 19:08. 36, Sinfonia n. 3 in Mi bemolle maggiore "Eroica" Op. 4 in B ♭ major, Op. I’m sure people in a contemporary audience have had a good laugh about this (today’s audiences are far too serious to even notice the joke, unless they are told about it!). The final bars could perhaps be a little more concise, but that is likely attributable to the live (as opposed to studio) recording. [33] In 1838 the French impresario Louis-Désiré Véron called the Fourth sublime and regretted that in Paris it was not merely neglected but denigrated. From today’s view, however, this recording has a few deficiencies that aren’t necessarily Klemperer’s fault, but based on limitations of the recording technique, the use of a big orchestra, which is stuck in traditions of romantic playing: there’s plenty of vibrato in the string sections, this hurts most in the short staccato in the violins, where it causes these short notes to lack purity in intonation. the instruments are mostly modern, though even just the use of wooden drum sticks makes a huge difference. Ludwig van BeethovenSymphony No. But that is my (almost) only criticism here: the Allegro vivace is at almost exactly Beethoven’s tempo, has drive, is vivid — excellent, overall! Duration: 5’55”A Minuet? Also, the highly precise, accentuated accompaniment with its many short notes makes Zinman’s tempo feel a bit nervous (even though Beethoven’s metronome number is 10% higher): too agitated for an Adagio. On top of that, the recording technique is really too limited to capture this performance (some of the loud passages are just noise); not much fun! The ending is a typical, nice / fun Beethoven joke / surprise. 7 in A major, Op. Unlike apparently the new Beethoven edition, the ornaments in bars 223, 227 & equivalents are played as acciaccaturas (hence more closely following what a typical audience may expect). Title Name Translations Симфония № 1; Symphonie nº 1 de Beethoven; Symphony No. Overall Duration: 31’55“Rating (see above for details): 2.8 — An interesting recording for fans of historic performances, with the advantage of stereo sound over Walter’s earlier recordings. Beethoven Symphony No. Duration: 10’16” — exposition not repeatedTo me, clearly the oldest interpretation in style, unfortunately seriously hampered by coughing and other noises from the live audience, to a degree that makes it very hard to enjoy anything in this performance. Sometimes one can hardly identify what cello and double bass are playing. Duration: 5’27”Heavy, colossal, overblown, and an extreme tempo difference between Menuetto (3/4 = 92) and Trio (3/4 = 62) — not quite un poco meno Allegro! It’s a big orchestra, of course, and so it sometimes is a bit loud, especially when compared to HIP recordings. It’s a rather wild Menuetto — often almost boisterous: The Menuetto consists of two parts (20 + 70 bars), both with repeat signs, the Trio (84 bars) has no repeat signs: Both the Scherzo and the Trio are to be repeated at the end of the first pass, and the movement ends with an abbreviated Menuetto section of 44 bars. 1 (Beethoven); 1. Toscanini subordinates everything to the cantabile, i.e., the melody line is key in this interpretation, but definitely without the larmoyance in Bernstein’s last recording. Prom 12: Beethoven Cycle -- Symphonies Nos. To me, this creates somewhat of a (minor) problem, in that Toscanini’s Adagio introduction is very slow (the slowest in this comparison, see the table above), and with without the repeat of the exposition, the introduction now occupies a full third of the movement (3’20” out of 9’57”), which I think is out of balance (in the case of David Zinman, using Beethoven’s metronome values, the introduction is a mere 20% of the movement’s time, though of course with the exposition being repeated). Ludwig van Beethoven's Symphony No. The two violin voices are placed on opposite sides of the podium, i.e., the orchestra arrangement is Vl 1 — Vla — Vc — Vl 2. 92: Oboe I - page 1 (c) by CCARH 2008 Symphony No. remains pp, as given by the score. The CD collection includes a bonus CD with Norrington’s introduction into various aspects of Beethoven’s symphonies, into HIP performance in general, discussing orchestra size and arrangement, the absence of vibrato, articulation, and — most importantly — questions of tempo and character of the various movements. Duration: 10’02”The tempo is about as slow as Karl Böhm‘s. Duration: 11’25”To me, the symphony starts with a minor disappointment, in that Norrington falls short of his own rules, playing the Adagio substantially slower (1/4 = 52) than Beethoven’s own annotation (1/4 = 66) — with this, the alla breve measures are hardly noticeable. The Symphony No. 7 in A major, Op. Leonard Bernstein described it as a "mysterious introduction which hovers around minor modes, tip-toeing its tenuous weight through ambiguous unrelated keys and so reluctant to settle down into its final B♭ major. De symfonie is geschreven voor 2 fluiten, 2 … Symphony No.5, Op.67 (Beethoven, Ludwig van) Movements/Sections Mov'ts/Sec's: 4 movements Composition Year 1807-08 ... IMSLP does not assume any sort of legal responsibility or liability for the consequences of downloading files that are not in the public domain in your country. : the second clarinet in bars 215ff., second voices in various places), the lack if left-right antagonism between the two violin voices is a real pity. There is a slight accelerando over the first 38 bars, but that’s not adding tension — quite to the contrary. One can hear that the transparency is suffering, sometimes, second voices are “drowning”, and occasionally the tempo starts to sound pushed & rushed. So, my guess is that if you are after well-rounded, balanced, maybe near-perfect orchestra sound (for a recording in the 80’s), his 1983 recording may be just fine (though I have not followed the discussions about how his several Beethoven symphony recordings compare). Accents are softened, and there is too much rallentando and broadening at the end. (see the score sample above) is of course correct, the transitions in bars 98f. 5 & 6Beethoven - Symphony No. It is predominantly genial in tone, and has tended to be overshadowed by the weightier Beethoven symphonies that preceded and followed it – the Third Symphony (Eroica) and the Fifth. The complete performance of Symphony No.4 with Bruno Walter and the Columbia Symphony Orchestra is available on YouTube (not with great sound, though; the CD set listed above is far better). Bruno Walter, Columbia Symphony Orchestra(recorded 1958 – 61), Sony Classical SMM5023122 (5 CDs, stereo); ℗ 1958 – 63, 1993 / © 2001Booklet: none, With the availability of stereo recording technique, CBS wanted Bruno Walter (1876 – 1962) to re-record the Beethoven symphony cycle (realized 1958 – 1961) — and they even founded an orchestra for this purpose, the Columbia Symphony Orchestra. Blog post #560 — #rolfsmblog • Duration: 5’00”In view of traditional interpretations, Beethoven’s annotations are typically considered fast. 5 in C minor, Op. 21, Sinfonia n. 2 in Re maggiore Op. 7 2nd Clarinet (in A) Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827) Symphony No. Overall, though, still an interpretation with drive and rhythm. And the sublime writing for the vocal soloists and chorus in the final scene of Beethoven’s only opera, Fidelio (1805, rev. #108610–108614: Original scans: 195dpi, color jpg images approximately 2000 by 2400 pixels. It sounds fast at first (when comparing with traditional recordings, possibly with the listener’s expectations), but then one realizes that Zinman correctly takes this alla breve, i.e., in halves rather than quarter notes, and so, this sounds totally natural. There are several theories about why, if so, he did not do this. Adagio —Allegro vivaceDuration: 10’41”In the Adagio introduction, this is one of very few sticking to Beethoven’s tempo marking, and also the Allegro vivace is close to the composer’s annotation, with 1/1 = 75 (LvB: 80). Even some prominent conductors & orchestras shamefully hide away this detail: The tempo selection for this movement (224 bars, not counting any repeats) is fairly coherent throughout the recordings, and not too far below Beethoven’s annotation (in the Menuetto, Toscanini and Zinman are faster, in the Trio, only Toscanini matches Beethoven’s tempo). This appears rushed / unclear, suppressing the effect (presumably) intended by the composer (strange because I always felt that rhythm is Bernstein’s real strength!). Anton Bruckner's Symphony No. Also, I don’t quite understand why Walter accelerates towards the end of the exposition. Beethoven Symphony No. Beethoven, Ludwig van. [41] These pioneering efforts were followed in later decades by recordings of performances in what was currently regarded as authentic style, often played by specialist ensembles on old instruments, or replicas of them, playing at about a semitone below modern concert pitch. In parts this may have been because I disliked all the hype around him, along with his self-glorification, etc. Overall Duration: 30’01”Rating (see above for details): 4.8 — Near the very top of my list — an excellent recording, overall, hard to beat, at least technically! The big plus in this recording is in the use of authentic instruments, which (together with the smaller ensemble) yields a much better acoustic balance between woodwinds and strings. However, Beethoven specifies 1/8 = 84 (the crotchet in the score for sure must be a mistake / typo! Beethoven had to write to Oppersdorff apologising for this breach of their agreement. — a very nice idea, and certainly not objectionable, as this is a repetition of the principal melody in this movement. Even though the instruments are (likely) modern, I call this a true HIP recording, and I prefer it over Christopher Hogwood’s! 7 in A major, Op. Arte Nova 74321 59214 2 (CD, stereo); ℗ / © 1998Booklet: 20 pp. In traditional interpretations with big orchestra, the bassoon is often partially or fully hidden behind the cello voice. But then, this deserves a bonus for a live concert recording. The symphony's nickname of Romantic was used by the composer himself. It’s hardly still Adagio, and the precision starts to suffer. But Bernstein is careful about rhythmic details, as shown in bars 69ff. very nice, and not extroverted, even in the ff sections! The Beethoven Symphony No.4 was recorded in 1961. See also comments on the older recording above. —Find pocket score on amazon.com (#ad) —. According to George Grove, economic necessity obliged Beethoven to offer the Fifth (together with the Pastoral) jointly to Prince Lobkowitz and Count Razumovsky. About | Impressum, Legal | Site Policy | Testimonials | Acknowledgements | Blog TimelineTypography, Conventions | WordPress Setup | Resources, Tools | Pictures, Methods, Hello Rolf, Indeed, there are some superficialities in the articulation, and occasionally, Bernstein seems to lack the patience / strength to hold back a tiny moment in order to let an accent / sforzato, or a syncope stand out clearly. Beethoven fondly referred to it as "my little Symphony in F", distinguishing it from his Sixth Symphony, a longer work also in F.. But then, this dismisses the nice dialog effects. 92, is a symphony in four movements composed by Ludwig van Beethoven between 1811 and 1812, while improving his health in the Bohemian spa town of Teplice.The work is dedicated to Count Moritz von Fries.. At its premiere, Beethoven was noted as remarking that it was one of his best works. 93 is a symphony in four movements composed by Ludwig van Beethoven in 1812. A regular recapitulation is followed by a coda that makes a final allusion to the main theme, and the timpani bring the movement to an end with the last appearance of the rhythmic theme with which the movement began. I’m comparing this mainly to Zinman‘s recording, and this one is really excellent, almost exactly at Beethoven’s metronome marks, yet never really pushed or rushed, but joyful, natural / “human”, with light articulation, discharging the ff notes, simply very good, indeed! It was composed in 1806 and premiered in March 1807 at a private concert in Vienna at the town house of Prince Lobkowitz. Notes to LSO Live set LSO0098D, Notes to CD sets Parlophone 0724356679559 (2003), Decca 00028948088942 (2015), Parlophone 5099972333457 (2013), and DG 00028947771579 (2007), Greenberg, Part 2: Lecture 14: "Symphony No. Duration: 7’06”Pretty chaotic in the strings — due to Furtwängler’s notoriously vague, unclear (“inspiring”) direction? Symphony No. de/en (this CD). Rather a military march (of sorts), at least in the ff parts; the lyrical sections / voices are often extremely legato & broad in articulation. The symphony is in four movements. Karajan’s case is probably a little more complicated: I never counted myself a member of his fan community. The second movement, Allegretto, was the most popular movement and … 4 Note the differences in key signature. For me, it’s too forceful in the Menuetto (in today’s view) to be a real top interpretation, but I can’t deny that both parts have lots of drive. In the introduction, the pp (to me) is too loud, the string sound in general more coarse than with the Vienna Philharmonics, and also the woodwinds are less smooth in sound and mixing with the rest of the orchestra. This is from a collection of live concert recordings that Wilhelm Furtwängler (1886 – 1954) made 1948 – 1954, with various orchestras; this symphony was recorded in 1953, with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra. As usual by this stage of the composer's career, the symphony divided opinion among those who heard early performances. There are also some tempo inconsistencies that may have emerged from the live situation, but don’t really make sense in the audio-only listening experience. Beethoven, Symphony No. Throughout the movement the articulation is very careful, detailed and light, the orchestra is very virtuosic (and indeed, at 1/1 = 80, the Allegro vivace sounds like a virtuosic orchestral showpiece!). Too much expression, indeed: I’m sure it’s all heartfelt by the conductor. Première. Duration: 6’41”Hogwood’s interpretation of this movement is really good: the tempo is fast, close to Beethoven’s annotation — but at the limit for the orchestra (perhaps also because of the direction from the fortepiano?). But, as some examples below demonstrate, it is perfectly doable (though it does require a good, virtuosic orchestra!). Work Title Symphony No.1 in C major Alt ernative. English: The Symphony No. Like other conductors from that period (Furtwängler, Walter), Toscanini does not repeat the exposition. Duration: 9’26” — exposition not repeatedCompared to Bruno Walter’s last recording series, there are obvious sound limitations, not just because it’s a mono recording, but also in the acoustic balance. very nice: the first part of the Coda (bars 319ff.) The second theme is somewhat slower. Not much to criticize, at least from a technical point-of-view. [8] The first public performance was at the Burgtheater in Vienna in April 1808. The introduction (38 bars) is followed by the joyful, jumping first theme of a sonata movement, whereby the exposition (bars 45 – 184) is repeated. 4, Mvt. [2] The Fourth Symphony contrasts with Beethoven's style in the previous Third Symphony (Eroica), and has sometimes been overshadowed by its massive predecessor[n 4] and its fiery successor, the Fifth Symphony.[2]. (see the score sample above) right! [37][39], Recordings from the stereo LP era of the mid-1950s to the 1970s include those conducted by Otto Klemperer (1957), Pierre Monteux (1959), Herbert von Karajan (1963) and Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt (1966). de/en/fr, Arte Nova 74321 65410 2 (5 CDs, stereo); ℗ / © 1997-1999Booklet: de/en/fr. Presto, Violin Part - 9 in A Major, Op. [38], "Beethoven's 4th" redirects here. Duration: 9’56”There is a recording with Bruno Walter rehearsing this movement:It is very interesting to hear how much emphasis Walter puts on getting the rhythm and the articulation in the accompaniment played correctly, taking care of the tiniest of details; and of course, he gets the rhythm in bars 69ff. Robert Schumann described this symphony as "a slender Greek maiden between two Norse giants," and started the long-standing tradition which holds that somehow Beethoven's even-numbered symphonies are less profound than the odd-numbered ones. 671 - Allegro con brio2 - Andante con moto3 - Scherzo. For the symphonies (like David Zinman), Thomas Dausgaard uses Jonathan del Mar’s new Beethoven edition (Bärenreiter). Here, it even has slightly more weight than the cello, and it is the first time (I listened to Dausgaard last) where I really became aware of this voice — a nice feature! 1 (Бетовен); Simfonia núm. 4 Polyphonic or contrapuntal music is where each line has its own melody and rhythm, although there are often close similarities between the lines. For quite some time, many people believed that the metronome numbers in Beethoven’s scores were either not authentic, or that Beethoven’s metronome was simply broken. In 2002, he conducted all Beethoven symphonies in commented concerts — and all these live performances were recorded. First Movement (Andante) Form: Sonata Form. 2015-01-06 — Original posting2015-08-20 — Added reference to Zinman’s complete symphony recording2016-07-31 — Brushed up for better readability. The Symphony No. 125 "Choral" is the last complete symphony composed by Ludwig van Beethoven. 92, Sinfonia n. 8 in Fa maggiore Op. On top of the slowness, the interpretation is overblown, exceedingly romantic, trying to make this a monumental piece (supported by the very big orchestra, of course). Beethoven's 7th Symphony Post by Contratrombone64 » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:30 am hi - there, this is probably not the correct spot for this post so move it moderators. The CD release also includes Overtures and the violin concerto, with Isaac Stern. Too perfect, maybe (certainly too perfect for a truly historic performance), as the only “criticism” (along with the missing left-right dichotomy with the two violin voices)? Converted to black and white tif files, deskewed (somewhat), re-sampled to 600dpi, and set uniform margins. Duration: 6’57”Technically, the performance of the orchestra is simply excellent, considering the size of the ensemble, maybe with the exception of the first 10 bars where the musicians take a while to reach perfect coordination. But from CD, the melody sounds far too sweet, with too much vibrato. 4 in B ♭ major, Op. Ferraguto suggests that it originated in Grove's gloss on, or misremembering of, words actually used by Schumann. Bars 69ff. Allegro vivace 1. 6 was also my favorite, after I had been introduced to it through the film Soylent Green. Symphony No.4, Op.60 (Beethoven, Ludwig van) Movements/Sections Mov'ts/Sec's: 4 movements Composition Year 1806 ... IMSLP does not assume any sort of legal responsibility or liability for the consequences of downloading files that are not in the public domain in your country. The ornaments in bars 223, 227 and equivalents are played as appoggiaturas, as given in Jonathan del Mar’s new Beethoven edition (Bärenreiter). The symphony No.4 was recorded in 1978. with the intricate, fast “2 vs. 3” rhythm is as clear as in none of the other interpretations. 5 in C Minor, Op. This first stereo recording was made at a time when Klemperer was already impaired from an accident and was forced to conduct from a chair; the tempo must already have been substantially slower than at the peak of his career. In parallel to the Beethoven recordings, Zinman invited conductors such as Frans Brüggen (1934 – 2014) who introduced the orchestra into historically informed playing. With occasional coordination / precision issues, especially in the punctuated f / sf sections (greetings from Bruno Walter!). https://www.rolf-musicblog.net/ratings-concerts-vs-media-reviews/, Concert review, ★★★★½, @baldurbronniman / @BSsinfonietta @ Münchenstein, 2020-11-22 — Georg Friedrich #Haas: Joshua Tree (2020); Gérard #Grisey: IV. The first public performance was at the Burgtheater in Vienna in April 1808. In the Allegro vivace part, the second theme is played slightly slower, but otherwise, the tempo is kept straight. Duration: 8’44”Dausgaard remains below Beethoven’s metronome mark and is slightly slower than Toscanini and Zinman — with the benefit that the movement remains truly Adagio (calm), the melody is cantabile and singable, and at the same time the accompaniment is not nervous, thanks to a nicely soft articulation. Allegretto scherzando • 3. Is the orchestra reaching its limits? Beethoven fondly referred to it as "my little Symphony in F," distinguishing it from his Sixth Symphony, a longer work also in F.. Anton Bruckner's Symphony No. It’s a typical example of his serene “even” symphonies (2, 4, 6, 8), which alternate with his more dramatic & expressive “odd” symphonies (3, 5, 7). The same can be said about the accelerando at the end of the movement. The extensive booklet is also a comprehensive scientific documentation of Hogwood’s findings. Bonn 1770 - Vienna 1827 . 4 in B♭ major, Op. Beethoven’s long struggle with what was later to become his Fifth Symphony had caused him to put it aside for a while; it was during this time … Zinman opted for the latter — and we indeed hear excellent coordination & precision in the orchestra’s playing. In order to provide a rating overview, as well as an idea about tempo relations both within an interpretation, as well as between the two recordings, I have prepared the little table below. https://www.rolf-musicblog.net/baldur-bronnimann-basel-sinfonietta-munchenstein-2020-11-22/, Anniversary Concert, #Orpheum Foundation: David #Nebel, Dorukhan #Doruk, @OliverSchnyder — Baden, 2020-11-07 — Beethoven: Violin Sonata op.24; Cello Sonata op.102/2; Piano Trio B♭ major, op.11 60 The Fourth Symphony is too often overshadowed by Beethoven s more dynamic Third and Fifth … 5 in C Minor, Op. Ravel’s Bolero can serve to summarize my experience with Karajan: I compared his performance once with Seiji Ozawa’s recording — and my conclusion was that I had never heard such a well-sounding, aesthetic (but boring) Bolero as Karajan’s, and never one that was so full of tension, so enthralling as Ozawa’s (mind you, this was >35 years ago!). All I hear from that is an attempt to make this a stereo recording, which of course it wasn’t and still isn’t. Blog post #563 — #rolfsmblog • ⇒ 4 more: 1. en/fr/de/it. In 1809 Carl Maria von Weber, never an admirer of Beethoven, wrote: Other critics were less hostile, praising the composer's "richness of ideas, bold originality and fullness of power" though finding the Fourth and the works premiered alongside it "rough diamonds". 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