If you see water pooling in a light fixture, even touching the switch to shut it off can result in electrical shock. Matthew…hoping you can help! Try a new bulb, just to eliminate that element. I just purchased a brand new LED 35w light bulb to replace my old inground, burnt out halogen pool light bulb. I’d hire an electrician to inspect the light and the circuit if you do not feel comfortable doing so. 1.Made sure power in was coming to switch , Check (120v). Unfortunately, your codebreaking skills are spot on. 4Inch hayward spa light. What is happening with the light? Pedestal and spa light can be on at same time. You will also need to close the pool for a day. The pattern is 3 red blinks, quick pause, 3 red, quick pause, 3 quick blue blinks. My pool light won’t turn off. If the socket voltage is off but more then 10-percent, that would be the issue. I replaced the gasket, but I consistently am noticing a small leak behind the pool lens. Can’t get the pool light to turn on. I don’t think the causes would carry over into this situation. Thanks. Epoxy vs. 6. I just bought a replacement breaker and will swap it out to see if that fixes it and report back. Sometimes the light will stay on as long as I want. It turns on with no issues. But that sounds like an electrician should be brought in to figure out the issue. Vinyl pools however, have the light niche gasket sealed to the pool wall, which has … the usual fix is replacing the whole light. A leaky pool light stems from a bad lens gasket. Or you can have an electrician come in and take a look at the wiring. To install a new light, you do not have to drain the pool to replace a bulb, read this guide: How To Replace a Pool Light Fixture. If my spa Led and my two pool led are on a easy touch and on one button does that mean they share the same breaker… my pool lights were put in last year….. I find it hard to believe that the cable is fouled in 3 months.. How can i find out what the problem is? No breaker reset needed. My electrician seems to think we may have the neutral wire crossed with another neutral from some other circuit, though we have checked as much of the line as we can see or have access to…. Have a 120v Pentair LED Pool Light connected to a local J-box. If you are an electrical engineer, you may be able to open it and troubleshoot the circuitry, but that process is above my ability, unfortunately. We will be starting from a point in which we assume you have already checked the GFCI and breaker as mentioned earlier in this piece. I had a service company come out and install an iaqualink (replacing an RS8). Problem solved but the repairman said he was shocked that the GFCI didn’t trip when it detected water (he said it would usually be very sensitive to water/moisture). Have you tested the voltage that is at the socket end? Parts are few and far between for it. Any suggestions? However, they will not work at the same time. Hi, I have Hayward Astrolite underwater fixtures. Don’t have a voltmeter. My first suspicion is that the combination of the two lights is overloading the breaker. It’s been doing this for about 2 weeks. When I put a voltmeter on it I get a 120V input line reading and a 12.3V output from the transformer – seems like the transformer is fine. Hi how can I tell if poollighthousing is 12 volt or120 volt, removed bulb housing old cannot read bulb voltage. But generally, the LED bulb replacements are almost the same cost of a whole new light. How can I be getting the correct voltage at the socket and a known goid nulb not light up? Hi, my 120v 300 watt bulb burnt. No water in either housing and both fixtures are secure. Anyone have any thoughts about if there’s maybe something else that could control that light…or if you think it’s just a bad switch and I should try to change it out? The multimeter measures a steady 12.8 volts, there is no water in the interior of the fixture however I do get 9 volts if I measure from the receptacle tip to the outside of the fixture housing……6 inch American Standard light fixture with 15 ft cord. Or is this an old light just acting up? Water surrounds the unit, keeping it from overheating. Any advice in how I can validate. The project visualizes the conditions of NYC’s waterways through a light installation and interactive website, posing the question: how’s the water … They are trying to tell me my 3+ year old spa light needs to be replaced. If not, that may be the cause of the repeated bulb failures. Should I start with warranty replacement with Hayward or check the transformer. A GFCI circuit can be activated by a current change as low as 4 milliamps. (20amp single pole GFCI). That was my thoughts too. A lot of electrical issues stem from a breaker that has gone kaput. When i set it to white, it is now more of a blue color that emits rather than white. The usual hurdle homeowners have to overcome is getting a multimeter to complete the task. I’m thinking of replacing that next. You can remove the light fitting to change the bulb or check it as long as all of the power is off. What to do?? The second is is it possible that it’s just a coincidence that all of this happened when switching the light switch out. Good thing I measured the old cable before buying the new one. You are currently adding excess acid to lower your pH to fix an algae problem in your pool. The multimeter will have two leads: one Red lead (positive) and one Black lead  (Negative or Ground. If water is in the fixture, that is causing the short. Hi Matt, The likely solution will be changing out the light fixture and cable, not the niche though. It seems that they dont want to any troubleshooting of what the problem secratary just says we don’t or never use the 12v light but thats what i paid for since my last pool we had the list had water in it troubleshooting the problem would be my first choice to find the problem the only difference in lights is one has a step down transformer not sure if eirei g was cage for new light that doesn’t work either now I haven’t heard from them, I even called the manufacturer zodiac/jandy because pool security sad not compatable with pool equipment not true my whole system is jandy they work with with all pool equipment I’m getting the run around. Is the bulb itself malfunctioning? Have you checked that voltage is reaching light fixture, per the article? A pool light, despite all its waterproofing and hundred or so volts of electricity, is held into the pool wall by one bolt called the lockscrew. If it is not the breaker, then you may have an issue with the light cable or fixture. I’ve replaced my two pool lights twice each in 5 years. The next day we went for a swim and It tripped the breaker. When an Intellibrite is having that kind of issue, usually replacing the bulb if not the whole light are your only options. Light worked for 3 hours and shut off. After replacing all fixture with a new one and pulling the 100ft cable back to the junction box where the spa light connects. However, when I cycle the switch to change the color of the led light it causes the GFCI to trip. Any thoughts on problem? Installed an led light in a pentair housing. Yes, my ideas are covered in the article. The housing accepts the voltage it does not put it out, so you will need to determine the voltage coming from the breaker. What’s more, it boasts an integrated rechargeable battery for continuous use. From 10-32 to size 12-24 x 3. When a breaker is tripped, it flips to an idle position and will not resume current flow until it is completely reset by hand. Looking for any help you may have to offer. Set the multimeter to read for 120 or 12-volt range for proper readings. The three lights likely have varying loads they put on the breaker, but the combination of the pool light (likely the biggest strain) and the pedestal light is too much. Then the pump and salt water generator starting blowing the switch as well. Wiring and parts can eventually fail, even if nothing has changed. I can flip the switch off and the light still stays on, still dim but it will not go off. The pool light won’t go on. We tested the GFCI several times to see if the spa light would come on but it never did. If they are working, as soon as the water reaches the bulb socket you should loose power, unless it is an ungrounded system. The only other thing I would check is if there is water in the light fixture. I mentioned the 120v led light we don’t and didnt want. Also, what model light do you have? In fact, most problems come from incorrectly grounded or bonded lights, not from lights that are improperly powered. Both lights worked problem solved right. It is a ColorLogic LED. The fixture was installed in 2005. What model light do you own? A 120-volt circuit will have a line running directly from the breaker to the light or a junction box. Epoxy can be used, but I suggest using a rubber cord stopper. My pool light gfci is tripping after about four minutes of the light being turned on. My spa light will come on for a second then trip the gfci. A pool light, despite all its waterproofing and hundred or so volts of electricity, is held into the pool wall by one bolt called the lockscrew. Lately if we touch the light or brush up against it we get shocked. If it works for an iPhone it may just work for a LED light. I also added an outlet on the same line. To me, it sounds like a dead light. Everything worked fine until a few days ago when they went out of sync. To determine a proper light replacement, you will need to measure the outside diameter of the face rim and the depth. The fist thing I would try is replacing the GFCI; it may be as simple as the breaker being bad. Hello I have 3 Colorlogic lights in my pool. Shut off all power to the pool lighting. He said it was very dangerous to have the light on, and to keep the breaker off until I could have it looked at by a good electrician. What is the wattage capacity of the transformer and the required watts for the lights? I just replaced a 120v spa light in my pool after I left the old one on for two days on accident. If you are handy, you could complete the installation yourself, see this guide: How To Replace a Pool Light Fixture. The PVC conduits run under the deck from each light if you have more than one light in the water. I normally operate them via the chlorinator go App. What kind of bulb is it? I read above that maybe the GFCI is old. When I set lighting color to red, barely any light is coming from the fixture. Chlorine exposure or old age can deteriorate the rubber to warp so that it allows water to reach the light internals. I don’t know the manufacturer. I have heard from several customers I the last couple years how the ColorLogic’s can be temperamental. I have a beachcomber hot tub with a broken underwater light down at foot level. At dawn, when the Photo Cell triggers the light to turn off, the light goes into a cycle where it goes off for about 10 seconds, then comes on for about 10 seconds, then off, then on, and this cycle continues all day, even on a bright, sunshine-filled day, until dusk comes around and the photo cell triggers the circuit back on. I have checked breaker I case it has tripped. Or does burn mean something else? So good in fact, I do not know. Before we do anything, we want to reset the breaker and also restore the circuit to the point before the trip. I just bought my first home and have never owned a pool before. If you hear the ring-a-ting-ting of a broken filament then it’s time for a new bulb. Buying the correct fixture voltage is especially important for LED lights because unlike the incandescent fixtures the bulbs cannot be substituted out to switch voltage. First guess, you have a bad GFCI or bulb. *Remember to close the pool to swimmers until you have finished cleaning the pool. Thank you for all of your help, -Chris. If you correctly reset the breaker but it continues to flip to neutral, replacing the breaker may be necessary. I have a problem with my pool light as well. For one, the mineral sanitation system was on the fritz. And I have a 120 to 12 external transformer that’s wired up to a 12v intellibrite led color spa light and pool light. If you have not, then I suggest you do so and then we can take it from there. No power out. The one must have gone around the world and back. I have taken the entire housing out of the pool and it is so corroded I cannot get any of the housing to come apart and the labeling is all warn to the point of no reading. This is because the power source and even the light bulbs are housed out of the water – and far away from the swimming pool in a dry power box. Just. I’m thinking they burned out first light and put temp 12v I. bathroom exhaust fans. Turns out the controller shorted out because the contractor did not follow code and ensure the J box is above the water line, and used regular wire nuts (not waterproof), so J box was filled with water. The lockscrew is located at the 12 o’clock position on the light fixture face. The only other things I can think of are a bad transformer or light fixture thermal protection. I replaced the bulb and it works fine. Bad light bulb or possible water in fixture? The switch isn’t like a normal switch. Once I switch them on, I get a buzzing noise on the control panel but the pool lights won’t come on. Most often it will stay on for 5-15 minutes then trip the breaker. The light that only works for a minute could be caused by the light not receiving enough voltage from the breaker. So my lights come on but very dim and lately 2 of the three lights will light up periodically at full brightness but then back dim again.. Let the fixture dry out, then check the voltage at the socket. You can simply flip the switch up or down to turn on or off your pool light. Thank you for the insight and your time and consideration. Maybe they messed with the bonding of the light causing an issue with the circuit. If the water leak is coming through the ceiling from a second floor, try to pinpoint the upstairs source. Yeah I can but this is one I installed a year ago so seems odd that it would be bad. I have 2 Hayward led lights,one pool, one spa. Each on separate circuits obviously with separate 12V/100W transformers. Again light works for about 5 minutes and burns out. Water may be dripping all the way down from the … Is there a way to just fix those colors, or does the entire light need to be replaced? Or get a standard incandescent bulb to test whether the breaker still trips? Sometimes when I turn it on it is extremely dim but then after minutes , hours and even days it gets to full brightness. Hi Matt Sounds like a faulty gasket. Last April, 7-year-old Calder Sloan was electrocuted in his family’s Miami-area pool. I can give you hints on what it may be, but nothing is a substitute for actually inspecting and testing the circuit for continuity. It’s as if if it struggles to turn on but when it does it works fine. Thanks again, Hi. what will your meter read when there is water in the fixture. So if your bulb were to ever fail, you just install a new PureColors bulb, without having to replace the whole fixture. My pool is two years old. What would cause one of lights not to sync with other two that are synced. You might be able to temporarily fix the problem. Can you offer any advice? We pulled the pool light out and there was a little bit of water in the light. You will know your pool light is leaking if the pool water has dropped to the level around the top of the light. Hi, I replaced my pentair remote and they did sync it but the spa light only comes on for 3 seconds the shuts off! Or you can test the circuit continuity with a multimeter. Neither of the pumps will turn on, even with the breaker reset. You can start at any of the steps I mention in the guide. I recently had an electrician out to test my pool light because it would not work even with a new bulb. I’m hoping someone can solve this one for me. or just have an electrician come out to inspect further? Any ideas? My pool lights stay on for 1 or 2 seconds and then the GFCI circuit trips (sometimes). A test of the circuitry may be necessary to be certain the new bulb will not be ruined by a power surge or some other electrical issue. i disconnected the landscape lights that were getting power from the power outlet of the pool where the junction box is, thinking it was out powered but still did the same thing! Copyright © 2020 INYOpools All rights reserved. The one on the deep end comes on for 30-60 seconds the shuts off. Algae growth turns a pool green, and algae grows when pool water lacks chlorine. 105ºF). Want replacment LED POOL LIGHTS go to kiwipool.co.nz or email kiwipool@gmail.com If you think you’ve found a crack but aren’t quite sure if that’s the origin, place some pH indicator test reagent near it with the pump shut off in the still water. A 12-volt circuit will have a line from the breaker routed to a 12-volt transformer then to the light or junction box. Have you had a licensed electrician check out the problem? I got color light but stay only one color what can I do. I have now removed the pool light fiture and replaced with a new bulb. A single GFCI connects the pool and spa light. Need some help with my pool light that is tripping the GFCI. The light travels from the dry power box to your pool via a slim, flexible cable that comprises tiny fibers (the cable connects to a fitting in the pool wall, which is where the light appears). I’m thinking I should be looking at a different manufacturer possibly. Also, why is there a spring coil loop in the light fixture? What is the make and model of the light? We’re in South Florida so temp should not be an issue. Made connections to the box as it was with the old unit. If the water stops leaking below the top of the light, you should check the fixture. I filled the pool last night to just above the light, this morning the water was down to the middle of the light. Trace the light circuit to its source and check for any grounded wires that are loose or missing. Andy, has the GFCI tripped and maybe you forgot to reset it? We will walk through some simple fixes and some not so simple. Any idea what causes this? Our last floating pool light pick is a unique disc-shaped device that offers whole-pool illumination. If the housing can put out either voltage and it just depends whats coming from my Breaker to the Junction box. In this case, check the waste or backwash line for running water, I can power the pool light of off another line. Talk about holding your breath if it gets stuck or the rope comes off somehow. GFCIs can go bad. The closest thing they come to mentioning this problem is below: PROBLEM: Light will not come on or light cycles on and off. Pool is 18 months old and lights would not work. My seal is solid and i change the gasket every time. $85.99 $ 85. Have you tried any of the steps mentioned in the article? I rest the GFCI and they work again for about an hour. It sounds like it is either a light fixture cable or breaker issue. What could cause this? You may have a circuitry issue. You may want to give a call to the manufacturer or try asking the question over at TroubleFree Pool. Again this task can be done with the handy dandy multimeter. Most homeowners are familiar with GFCIs from their bathroom electrical sockets. I have a question that I cant seem to find an answer online to, Our pool light is on but it is super dim, you can barely see it. Hoping I don’t have to pull a whole new pool light line. Now what. Of course, i rather be safe than sorry; should I aim to replace the GFCI breaker? Light turns on fine but after about ten minutes the light starts blinking on and off…? Only one day went by before I pulled the housing again. This past weekend we decided to use our pool, we heated it up overnight and at night when we wanted to swim the pool lights were out, we did find the GFCI and it was tripped so we reset it but only the pool light came on and the spa light did not. Annoying because most of the time the reason for the trip is a mystery, unless of course you just plugged in an appliance that overloaded a circuit. If you suspect a leak at the fitting, tighten the screws holding the light in place. I replaced the GFCI but it keeps tripping with no bulb in the pool light. Replaced my pool light (entire fixture) with a new Pentair LED light. If the bulb works, or the multimeter reads the proper voltage, a bulb and new lens gasket should do the trick; if not, you can get a brand new pool light. You have a couple of options when it comes to replacing the light. You don’t need to wait for the pool water to drop all the way to check for this leak. If you want to get away from the Hayward, we suggest the Pureline PureColors or the Pentair IntelliBrite. Am i just having bad luck or is there possibly something more systemic going on. Thanks. Thank you Matthew,turns out the new lockscrew was under threaded.Thanks, I have a light that don’t work but if you pulg the light in buy it self it will come on than you pulg it in to the box it don’t work how can we fox it. In your second comment, you said you got a new socket, did you mean bulb or did you install a new socket into your fixture? Was the fix that the light needed a new bulb or did you do other work on it? It’s time for a new light. I guess, but it’s hard to tell for sure, because I can’t see it. It had tripped, so I reset it and the light came on. I checked ground and neutral and they are properly connected at the junction box. Superchlorinate your water using a pool "shock" product. Bulbs that use a mirrored coating on the back of the light, do so to maximizes the direction of the light emitted by the bulb. It had a regular flip light switch. If the pool is losing more water while the pump is running, the leak is on the return line side of the system. When I switched my pool light on, it through the breaker. how can I checked the cable? This includes Bosch, Maytag, Samsung, GE, Kenmore, Frigidaire, and Whirlpool.. Vinyl liners can leak from anywhere, from small holes, or wherever the vinyl has been cut, for stairs, returns, pool lights. Next, we will reset the breaker at the box. If it has become more volatile/sensitive recently and you have not altered the wiring, then this may be a sign that it needed replacing. Rules out possible GFCI Issue. Our pool is brand new, job completed this past Jan, 2019. Thanks for responding. I have lots of electrical experience but not pool lights. I want to buy a new housing and fish the wires through to the junction box but I am not an electrician and am not sure to buy a 12v or 120v housing! What troubleshooting steps should I follow? When I tested the same leads where they connect to the panel itself, I got the same reading. I need to try baking soda next. same issue here…. Sometimes it comes on one color and just flashes. It’s attached to GCFI, so I just have turned it on and off using the GCFI for the last couple of years. For the poor quality bulb, try a different make and model of the bulb. My kaliedescope light works however the wheel isnt turning. If it is an incandescent then shake the bulb, and listen for a loose filament. If the 120 was working then then they bypassed the transformer and went to put a new 12v in and do not know how to install them and or your transformer could be bad. A glimmering pool light will add dazzling high notes to your poolscape; but a dim or broken light can leave you in the dark as to how to fix it. I have a 14 year-old Pentair 120V/100W incandescent, in-ground pool light that trips panel circuit breaker. If the water reaches the socket or any part of the circuit the GFCI should trip ending any chance electric shock. hi,i have a question about my swimming pool lights, one time i change the light 12 v. clip type now working,after 30 sec. Any ideas please? I can not reset the gcif, (the red and black button) is stuck and won’t “click” in. Connect the cable to the light using a Phillips head screwdriver and the appropriate fittings, ensuring a snug terminal connection. There is not an external junction below the diving board or gfci breaker. Water can get into the hole that carries the conduit. Installed it, turned on, fried bulb. The first pool LED light was installed in 2016. potentially incompatible with LED lighting? Hi Ray. I WISH THEY WOULD JUST TROUBLESHOOT IT 2 lights in a row being bad yaw Right. Going by the EasyTouch wiring diagrams, yes that should mean they are on the same AUX circuit. It looks like a low voltage thing. 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